Track Day use ???

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G96LUE
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Re: Track Day use ???

Post by G96LUE » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:50 pm

Hi Duncan

Good to hear it has finally arrived.
It is still possible to fit 12" wheels over metro turbo / era brakes as a friend of mine has done this before.
http://www.eraturbo.com/technical/page1/h02.png
this is a link to the microfiche page for the brake set up you should have.
the brakes should be 8.4" twin vented discs with 4 pot callipurs and you should easily be able to tell it they are correct by removing one of the front wheels and taking a look. the drive flanges should also have 4 raised pieces around the hub nut. these may have been ground off to fit the 12" wheels, but this shouldn't cause you any problems if they have.
With regard to the wheels, originals do come up occasionally on ebay, however some people list wheels as era wheels and they might not be.
sometimes they are revolution 5 spoke rfx, and sometimes they are ones produced by rover in the last few years of mini manufacture.
If you cant get originals, the rover ones are the next best thing, followed by the rfx's.
The wheels are 13"x6", but i am not sure what the offset is. i have 1 genuine & 1 rover one in the shed, i could measure them if you want.
the rover ones are not quite as far spaced from the hub as the genuine ones, but they do fit ok (about 1/2" closer to the shocks).
the tyres used were 165x60x13, i think they were dunlops, but i believe they are hard to find. i have used 175x55x13 on mine, but the o/a diameter is too small really, and my speedo is off too.
http://www.falkentyres.co.uk/prodtype.a ... istory=cat
here are some alternatives. click on 13" in the list, £33 each.
With regard to the ones on ebay, i would suggest not. my car is a replica that took me ages to find the parts for. I was intending to use the tyres from the metro turbo donor car, but on the metro rims the 185x55x13's would not clear the rear radius arm outer brackets.
i am also not sure about the stud patten too because these came from a K series metro.
i hope this helps.
regards
Darren.
ps will you be looking for a place on the stand at mitp?
:D

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Re: Track Day use ???

Post by G96LUE » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:15 pm

Hi again Duncan.
here is what rfx wheels look like.
Regards
Darren
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RENAULT-5-GT-TURB ... dZViewItem

again i am not sure of K series stud patten, but these would not look too out of place. would have to check out the offset too.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINI-METRO-ALLOY- ... dZViewItem

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Re: Track Day use ???

Post by type-r-dunk » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:19 am

Hi
If you look on mytyres.co.uk they have the 165/60/13 Falken ZE-502 for £27 in VAT and delivery ;) 8) . I think it would look more original if it had the RFX wheels but i would really like to know the offset to be sure they will fit. Could you please check on the inside of the wheel for me when you get a chance.
I may well come to mitp with the kids and wife if i can perswade her as we havnt been to a mini show in about 10 years.
Cheers Dunx

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Re: Track Day use ???

Post by kayball » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:57 am

Hi Duncan.
In answer to your question regarding offset for ERA wheels. On this site, under 'Buyers Guide' - Body and Wheels, the original Compomotive wheels are shown with the following spec moulded in to the rims
TRACKSTAR 6.0 J x 13 D1360 ET15”. which is also repeated in the text. I think this answers your question.

The gerbox, as standard, is not fitted with a central oil pick up, but we had one fitted when we purchased a reconditioned box from MED after our original 'fell apart" A well worthwhile mod when the occasion arises as the box is certainly the weak link in the powertrain, hence the boost being limited to 0.5 bar.

Genuine wheels do come up on e-bay, but not very often. There must be lots in Japan as they seem to take great delight in replacing them with other, non standard wheels. I assume that this is because suitable tyres are not available in Japan, but I may be wrong.
The original ERA grill also seems to be out of favour in Japan, as these are often replaced with standard Mk4 grills for some reason.
Best of luck with your car, and looking forward to seeing you, with or without your ERA at the MITP.
Regards.
Kayball.
Last edited by kayball on Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Track Day use ???

Post by paul » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:57 pm

165 60 13 are available in Japan by a couple of manufacturers but prohibitively expensive to ship, grills crack and get damaged in the sun over there being fairly brittle plastic, I would imagine some are removed to protect them from being damaged and then not replaced when sold.

Regards

Paul

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